tveric
Sep 26, 10:43 PM
What you forget is that many Apple users will turn on Apple without proof at the slightest hint of anything to object to, however trivial :)
So much for being mindless Apple-praising "sheep" and "zealots" :D
You're pretty close to nailing it there - in truth, they're still sheep and zealots, terms that imply a lack of ability to think for oneself and an over-the-top reaction when someone else makes up, or changes, their mind for them. It's the same morons, they just rush to extremes no matter what.
As for the pod thing - true, Apple doesn't own the word "pod", but it's perfectly reasonable to protect your iPod trademark so that someone else doesn't start making mp3 players called a MePod or something. I can't see how anyone can fault Apple for that. Trademark is not at all like copyright - if you don't actively protect your TM through the legal process, someone later CAN theoretically market their MePod and claim in court that since Apple didn't protect their trademark in a similar case, they can call their player a MePod, and perhaps even trademark THAT.
It's a jacked-up system, but you gotta play by the rules, I guess, if you want your product name protected.
So much for being mindless Apple-praising "sheep" and "zealots" :D
You're pretty close to nailing it there - in truth, they're still sheep and zealots, terms that imply a lack of ability to think for oneself and an over-the-top reaction when someone else makes up, or changes, their mind for them. It's the same morons, they just rush to extremes no matter what.
As for the pod thing - true, Apple doesn't own the word "pod", but it's perfectly reasonable to protect your iPod trademark so that someone else doesn't start making mp3 players called a MePod or something. I can't see how anyone can fault Apple for that. Trademark is not at all like copyright - if you don't actively protect your TM through the legal process, someone later CAN theoretically market their MePod and claim in court that since Apple didn't protect their trademark in a similar case, they can call their player a MePod, and perhaps even trademark THAT.
It's a jacked-up system, but you gotta play by the rules, I guess, if you want your product name protected.
Adam-
Apr 5, 11:26 AM
When you are watching a YouTube video, I tend to forget where the home button is. Or when surfing the web for some time while in the dark.
And I don't literally mean glow in the dark like those cheap Halloween things, I'm talking about an actual light behind the capitative square symbol which has a sensor which turns on when there is a certain level of darkness.
I can easily envisage this happening . It would look fantastic.
Wouldn't that be so annoying in the dark, like the backlight on the keyboard of a MBP when your watching a movie?
And I don't literally mean glow in the dark like those cheap Halloween things, I'm talking about an actual light behind the capitative square symbol which has a sensor which turns on when there is a certain level of darkness.
I can easily envisage this happening . It would look fantastic.
Wouldn't that be so annoying in the dark, like the backlight on the keyboard of a MBP when your watching a movie?
63dot
Mar 12, 01:08 PM
I thought everything that was stamped "Made in USA" or "Made in America" was fully so until I had to set out for my master's thesis on a famous American made product that I adore (Fender Musical Instrument Corporation).
As far as fully made in America, I can understand my expensive pro skateboarder Daewon Song Signature jeans from Matix Clothing Company being American made and the price tag certainly shows that. They are great but regular Matix jeans made overseas are just as good. Outside of my prized jeans, and some cool Sears Craftsman tools from the old days, everything I have is completely or partially made in another country.
When I was researching my guitar collection and my favorite brand, Fender, I went to Fender Musical Instruments as my first possible topic. I love my American Standard Stratocaster and Fender Standard Stratocaster with optional Floyd Rose tremolo. Made in USA is in small print on the guitar so I felt like they were like my vintage Fenders and Gibson guitars which I grew up with which were made in the USA.
It turns out many of the bodies of the guitar body blanks (before finishing), regardless of price point are made at a state of the art factory in Mexico. And on the Fender Standard series (at that time), both body and neck and most electronics are made in Mexico. Oddly, some of the Mexican made electrics from Fender have American made electronics. And while Floyd Rose is an American guitar parts inventor of the highest reputation (then bought by Fender at the time), it turns out the Original Floyd Rose tremolo was made in Germany, or at least the ones I played and some subcontracted by Schaller in Germany among others in the long history of Floyd Rose tremolos.
Later electric guitar models, regardless of maker or sticker or stamp, which are active electronics and may incorporate a small motherboard/daughterboard, have some of the electronic parts made in Taiwan. And that's just guitars and guitar components.
Now imagine how much more complex an "American" car is. Is is assembled here? Probably in most cases and not surprisingly some "foreign" cars are assembled here. But then where are the electronics of said American car from? Where was the paint made? Where were the plastics acquired from? Where is the glass from? Who made the tires, and if so, is it standard on all the car lines? Heck, are all the workers US citizens and/or legally allowed to work in the USA who are at the Ford plant? etc..
So when it comes to "Made in America", unless it's fairly straightforward like my more expensive Matix jeans or my buddy's American made, more expensive New Balance shoes, both which have a limited amount of parts/suppliers, there is no Made in America/USA products that are 100% percent so. It really pains me when somebody around me, in Silicon Valley, still thinks everything Apple is "Made in Cupertino".
That being said, I love any Fender guitar I have come across whether owning it, testing it out, or borrowing it for a gig, every Apple product I have ever owned, and the Matix jeans, my sole American product are not bad either.
I don't really care where a product is made if it is good. I just do my part for my region and buy locally, even if it costs even 10%-20% percent more.
As far as fully made in America, I can understand my expensive pro skateboarder Daewon Song Signature jeans from Matix Clothing Company being American made and the price tag certainly shows that. They are great but regular Matix jeans made overseas are just as good. Outside of my prized jeans, and some cool Sears Craftsman tools from the old days, everything I have is completely or partially made in another country.
When I was researching my guitar collection and my favorite brand, Fender, I went to Fender Musical Instruments as my first possible topic. I love my American Standard Stratocaster and Fender Standard Stratocaster with optional Floyd Rose tremolo. Made in USA is in small print on the guitar so I felt like they were like my vintage Fenders and Gibson guitars which I grew up with which were made in the USA.
It turns out many of the bodies of the guitar body blanks (before finishing), regardless of price point are made at a state of the art factory in Mexico. And on the Fender Standard series (at that time), both body and neck and most electronics are made in Mexico. Oddly, some of the Mexican made electrics from Fender have American made electronics. And while Floyd Rose is an American guitar parts inventor of the highest reputation (then bought by Fender at the time), it turns out the Original Floyd Rose tremolo was made in Germany, or at least the ones I played and some subcontracted by Schaller in Germany among others in the long history of Floyd Rose tremolos.
Later electric guitar models, regardless of maker or sticker or stamp, which are active electronics and may incorporate a small motherboard/daughterboard, have some of the electronic parts made in Taiwan. And that's just guitars and guitar components.
Now imagine how much more complex an "American" car is. Is is assembled here? Probably in most cases and not surprisingly some "foreign" cars are assembled here. But then where are the electronics of said American car from? Where was the paint made? Where were the plastics acquired from? Where is the glass from? Who made the tires, and if so, is it standard on all the car lines? Heck, are all the workers US citizens and/or legally allowed to work in the USA who are at the Ford plant? etc..
So when it comes to "Made in America", unless it's fairly straightforward like my more expensive Matix jeans or my buddy's American made, more expensive New Balance shoes, both which have a limited amount of parts/suppliers, there is no Made in America/USA products that are 100% percent so. It really pains me when somebody around me, in Silicon Valley, still thinks everything Apple is "Made in Cupertino".
That being said, I love any Fender guitar I have come across whether owning it, testing it out, or borrowing it for a gig, every Apple product I have ever owned, and the Matix jeans, my sole American product are not bad either.
I don't really care where a product is made if it is good. I just do my part for my region and buy locally, even if it costs even 10%-20% percent more.
tktaylor1
Apr 25, 02:47 PM
Even though I doubt you actually want to see anything here (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/) is a list of some things he promised to do and actually did. As far as politicians go Obama has been pretty good at keeping promises, I don't agree with him on everything but some of his problems with doing things come from the republicans stopping him and him having too much of a desire to compromise.
I have seen that list and it is a list of around 500 things. There are only about 140 things here. Most of them are encouragements which means nothing. Number 279, 284, 315 who the hell cares. Number 460, I could ask them to do that. Number 502, get his daughters a puppy, who gives a flying ****. A lot of this list is horse crap that doesn't matter.
I have seen that list and it is a list of around 500 things. There are only about 140 things here. Most of them are encouragements which means nothing. Number 279, 284, 315 who the hell cares. Number 460, I could ask them to do that. Number 502, get his daughters a puppy, who gives a flying ****. A lot of this list is horse crap that doesn't matter.
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eawmp1
Apr 9, 05:34 AM
Considering we have evidence to suggest PP workers aiding and abetting pimps and child prostitutes (fake) in acquiring abortion I don't see how lying and doctoring documents is above them. A lie from the physician and the paperwork for that abortion getting "misplaced" are all it takes.
Also I'm very surprised at only one website "exposing" her and a couple sites commenting on it. Abby Johnson lying would come out as a bang not a whimper.
In most cases, it is a prosecutor's (or is that persecutor's) responsibility to produce evidence of wrongdoing.
Also I'm very surprised at only one website "exposing" her and a couple sites commenting on it. Abby Johnson lying would come out as a bang not a whimper.
In most cases, it is a prosecutor's (or is that persecutor's) responsibility to produce evidence of wrongdoing.
jwong3854
Mar 10, 11:04 PM
We got Apple store, bestbuy, target, At&T store and Walmart within 2 miles of stonebriar
Still undecided on whether to go to the Apple Store or BB...
Either way will probably head over to Stonebriar since I don't think there's a BB near Willow bend....
Still undecided on whether to go to the Apple Store or BB...
Either way will probably head over to Stonebriar since I don't think there's a BB near Willow bend....
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coder12
Mar 25, 09:39 AM
Second that.
Motion passed. Court dismissed?
Motion passed. Court dismissed?
zap2
Mar 23, 04:45 AM
Ha, ha - Nintendo Launch Party Hopping... :eek:
Have fun! ;)
Haha, heyyy...for how rarely Nintendo launches a truly new handheld, I can give up my saturday night/sunday morning in hopes that it will be fun.
Have fun! ;)
Haha, heyyy...for how rarely Nintendo launches a truly new handheld, I can give up my saturday night/sunday morning in hopes that it will be fun.
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emvath
Apr 14, 01:38 PM
Booo! He worked for Microsoft, that means he knows nothing and that all of Microsofts "problems" will now surface on Apple devices. Unclean! UNCLEAN!!
xyz1534
Mar 10, 10:26 PM
Still undecided on whether to go to the Apple Store or BB...
Either way will probably head over to Stonebriar since I don't think there's a BB near Willow bend....
Either way will probably head over to Stonebriar since I don't think there's a BB near Willow bend....
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hulugu
May 2, 12:50 PM
No major changes. Some new wacko will step up and fill the fresh void.
That being said, it is a HUGE moral victory for us and our troops.
I'm not so sure that the void can be filled. Osama Bin Laden had become a figurehead, split away from his funding and logistical support, and existed as a symbol.
A new leader would have to fulfill that same roll, but Al Qaeda's money trail has been cut to ribbons, their logistical support is broken, and the organization's ability to recruit may be blunted by the 'Arab Spring.'
The Taliban, however, will keep on rolling, but they have always operated as a separate group, although their operational structures were intertwined.
Remember that Al Qaeda has been 'franchising' itself since before 9/11, so expect to see clones popping up in Africa and the Mid East that claim the same lineage, with leaders who will claim to be the next Osama Bin Laden.
However, that moment has passed.
That being said, it is a HUGE moral victory for us and our troops.
I'm not so sure that the void can be filled. Osama Bin Laden had become a figurehead, split away from his funding and logistical support, and existed as a symbol.
A new leader would have to fulfill that same roll, but Al Qaeda's money trail has been cut to ribbons, their logistical support is broken, and the organization's ability to recruit may be blunted by the 'Arab Spring.'
The Taliban, however, will keep on rolling, but they have always operated as a separate group, although their operational structures were intertwined.
Remember that Al Qaeda has been 'franchising' itself since before 9/11, so expect to see clones popping up in Africa and the Mid East that claim the same lineage, with leaders who will claim to be the next Osama Bin Laden.
However, that moment has passed.
Eraserhead
Mar 27, 05:50 AM
How about a breathing tax, somebody's gotta pay for all that CO2, right?
Let's tax blinking, too... That's a waste of energy.
Get real. Lots of countries have high taxes on car ownership or on fuel - noone has a "breathing tax".
Let's tax blinking, too... That's a waste of energy.
Get real. Lots of countries have high taxes on car ownership or on fuel - noone has a "breathing tax".
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bcaslis
Apr 21, 12:10 PM
You right. But that's a very common theory here on these threads. I use that analogy to suggest how ridiculous that would be if Apple really did remove it to 'differentiate' the product lines.
I've heard that they removed it because they couldn't fit it into the current MBA (which is thinner than before). Makes sense to me. Personally, I've had numerous MBPs and the original MBA. I've found I don't really miss it.
I've heard that they removed it because they couldn't fit it into the current MBA (which is thinner than before). Makes sense to me. Personally, I've had numerous MBPs and the original MBA. I've found I don't really miss it.
MacRumors
Dec 28, 08:36 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/12/28/atandt-halts-online-iphone-sales-to-new-york-city-market/)
The Consumerist reported (http://consumerist.com/2009/12/att-customer-service-new-york-city-is-not-ready-for-the-iphone.html) over the weekend that AT&T has quietly stopped offering online iPhone sales to customers located in the New York City market. Responding to a reader report, The Consumerist verified the extent of the issue:I went to the AT&T site to verify what Stephen said. Sure enough, the iPhone was available to zip codes in San Francisco and other major cities. It was not available to purchase for people living anywhere in New York City, or any of the suburban zip codes in Westchester County or northern New Jersey that I tried.There seems to be some confusion, however, over the cause of the move, with a customer service representative initially stating that "New York is not ready for the iPhone" and that it doesn't "have enough towers to handle the phone." Such an explanation, while a bit surprising, was not considered completely illogical, as New York City has been a common source of complaints from consumers regarding network performance, and AT&T has acknowledged (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/09/atandt-addressing-network-performance-in-manhattan-and-san-francisco-high-bandwidth-users/) that it is looking to improve service there.
Follow-up comments from AT&T, however, have cast doubt on that explanation, with an official response noting only that AT&T may "periodically modify [their] promotions and distribution channels." Other customer support representatives, such as those contacted by Gearlog (http://www.gearlog.com/2009/12/att_nixes_online_iphone_sales.php), have cited "increased fraudulent activity" from the area as the reason for removing online iPhone sales in the region.
Article Link: AT&T Halts Online iPhone Sales to New York City Market (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/12/28/atandt-halts-online-iphone-sales-to-new-york-city-market/)
The Consumerist reported (http://consumerist.com/2009/12/att-customer-service-new-york-city-is-not-ready-for-the-iphone.html) over the weekend that AT&T has quietly stopped offering online iPhone sales to customers located in the New York City market. Responding to a reader report, The Consumerist verified the extent of the issue:I went to the AT&T site to verify what Stephen said. Sure enough, the iPhone was available to zip codes in San Francisco and other major cities. It was not available to purchase for people living anywhere in New York City, or any of the suburban zip codes in Westchester County or northern New Jersey that I tried.There seems to be some confusion, however, over the cause of the move, with a customer service representative initially stating that "New York is not ready for the iPhone" and that it doesn't "have enough towers to handle the phone." Such an explanation, while a bit surprising, was not considered completely illogical, as New York City has been a common source of complaints from consumers regarding network performance, and AT&T has acknowledged (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/09/atandt-addressing-network-performance-in-manhattan-and-san-francisco-high-bandwidth-users/) that it is looking to improve service there.
Follow-up comments from AT&T, however, have cast doubt on that explanation, with an official response noting only that AT&T may "periodically modify [their] promotions and distribution channels." Other customer support representatives, such as those contacted by Gearlog (http://www.gearlog.com/2009/12/att_nixes_online_iphone_sales.php), have cited "increased fraudulent activity" from the area as the reason for removing online iPhone sales in the region.
Article Link: AT&T Halts Online iPhone Sales to New York City Market (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/12/28/atandt-halts-online-iphone-sales-to-new-york-city-market/)
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kdarling
Mar 24, 02:26 PM
As someone already pointed out, the Army currently uses iPods with translation programs in the field.
The advantage is that they're comparatively cheap, and young soldiers already know the basics of using them.
It's also been mentioned that the Army could use them to display videos of local leaders asking people to cooperate, etc. Plus remote control of robots, etc.
As for visiting Apple, who knows. Usually the military finds a third party company to modify units, but in this case they could be checking to see if Apple was willing to build a bunch for less.
The advantage is that they're comparatively cheap, and young soldiers already know the basics of using them.
It's also been mentioned that the Army could use them to display videos of local leaders asking people to cooperate, etc. Plus remote control of robots, etc.
As for visiting Apple, who knows. Usually the military finds a third party company to modify units, but in this case they could be checking to see if Apple was willing to build a bunch for less.
kentrox99
Oct 9, 03:45 PM
Am I the only one that feels like we've heard this song and dance before??
Isn't it the same stuff we heard from the record companies and music stores when people started downloading music? You can't stop a technological shift just because you want to keep the same profits. Let Wally-World and Target threaten all they want. It's not going to stop anything.
Isn't it the same stuff we heard from the record companies and music stores when people started downloading music? You can't stop a technological shift just because you want to keep the same profits. Let Wally-World and Target threaten all they want. It's not going to stop anything.
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JDDavis
Mar 11, 08:03 PM
Thanks for the feedback. It was a challenging mountain to frame as it was the first of many other peaks off to the right. Here is a broader view of Jones Peak and the adjacent peaks to the right... to me this takes away the focus from the alternating snowy/dark areas of Jones Peak, and it also seems unfinished on the right:
http://monogon.org/gfx/jonespeak2.jpg
1/640s, f/7.1, 70mm, ISO 100
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM
Just for grins, here is a shot of the Collegiate Peaks at 10mm focal length... and it still appears unfinished on the right. :eek: I guess I should have done what my sidekick did and just take a panorama. :)
http://monogon.org/gfx/collegiatepeaks.jpg
1/320s, f/10, 10mm, ISO 100
10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
I like the wider one a bit more but you are right it's still hard to make it look complete edge to edge. I like the panorama alot. Very nice range shot.
http://monogon.org/gfx/jonespeak2.jpg
1/640s, f/7.1, 70mm, ISO 100
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM
Just for grins, here is a shot of the Collegiate Peaks at 10mm focal length... and it still appears unfinished on the right. :eek: I guess I should have done what my sidekick did and just take a panorama. :)
http://monogon.org/gfx/collegiatepeaks.jpg
1/320s, f/10, 10mm, ISO 100
10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
I like the wider one a bit more but you are right it's still hard to make it look complete edge to edge. I like the panorama alot. Very nice range shot.
Small White Car
Jan 4, 10:18 AM
I wonder why the 2 plans have to be mutually exclusive. Why not download the whole database when you get it, for when you might not get coverage. And then automatically update when you do have coverage. When going somewhere, give priority updating to the current route and then download everything else. Maybe allow current route to be updated with EDGE/3G while whole database updates require Wi-Fi. Just my 2�
The problem with this plan is that they're specifically bragging about stuff like construction updates, points of intrest, and traffic alerts.
In other words, you'll have a system that's constantly downloading stuff AND taking up 3 GB on your phone. I'd be happier to pick one or the other and not have to have the worst of both plans.
Your idea could work for another GPS app that's not built to highlight those kind of things, but that doesn't seem to be the app that Garmin wanted to make.
My guess is that the maps download to your phone and are not constantly being pulled in, so a mapped-out drive from one city to another that passes through a dead zone isn't going to result in an area with no maps. But that one small issue of getting stuck in a no-coverage area and desperately needing it is worrisome.
That's something I'd like them to clarify, actually.
Is it like Google maps and just downlaods "where you are" or is it downloding your whole state and the surrounding states? Or, like "North-East" or something like that?
The difference between those 2 systems could actually mean a lot for some of you folks, it seems.
The problem with this plan is that they're specifically bragging about stuff like construction updates, points of intrest, and traffic alerts.
In other words, you'll have a system that's constantly downloading stuff AND taking up 3 GB on your phone. I'd be happier to pick one or the other and not have to have the worst of both plans.
Your idea could work for another GPS app that's not built to highlight those kind of things, but that doesn't seem to be the app that Garmin wanted to make.
My guess is that the maps download to your phone and are not constantly being pulled in, so a mapped-out drive from one city to another that passes through a dead zone isn't going to result in an area with no maps. But that one small issue of getting stuck in a no-coverage area and desperately needing it is worrisome.
That's something I'd like them to clarify, actually.
Is it like Google maps and just downlaods "where you are" or is it downloding your whole state and the surrounding states? Or, like "North-East" or something like that?
The difference between those 2 systems could actually mean a lot for some of you folks, it seems.
Moria
Jan 8, 01:17 PM
Cool. Some people say it's fake but I know for a fact that it is legit unless someone photoshopped the Banner in...
Really? :eek:
Really? :eek:
SilentLoner
Apr 19, 06:19 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8H7 Safari/6533.18.5)
Who thinks this is fake. I think it is plus he's asking for a lawsuit etc advertising his business on the advert too. Maybe it's stuff to sell the cases?
Who thinks this is fake. I think it is plus he's asking for a lawsuit etc advertising his business on the advert too. Maybe it's stuff to sell the cases?
JAT
Apr 13, 02:26 PM
Hi, I read the whole thread and just couldn't find the settings...
Thx
Check the DNS settings in network setup in your computers, and in your router/modem. See what you have. Your ISP should have servers they recommend, try them. Or you can search the internet for other DNS servers, try some public ones out, like the aforementioned Google.
If they are set fine in your router/modem, you can set your computers to nothing or to the IP of your router, which is usually something like 192.168.0.1.
I've seen computers (or modems) that end up with half a dozen DNS servers listed, maybe not even typed in properly, and it would sit and wait with a blank page for 5 seconds before loading any webpage. Cleaning up DNS with a good server usually drops that wait time.
I also once had a similar problem to Popeye's, where I couldn't go to certain websites. I can't remember specifics, I think I replaced my Qwest DNS with Verizon's or something and it cleaned that up. That was many years ago, it's a little foggy.
Thx
Check the DNS settings in network setup in your computers, and in your router/modem. See what you have. Your ISP should have servers they recommend, try them. Or you can search the internet for other DNS servers, try some public ones out, like the aforementioned Google.
If they are set fine in your router/modem, you can set your computers to nothing or to the IP of your router, which is usually something like 192.168.0.1.
I've seen computers (or modems) that end up with half a dozen DNS servers listed, maybe not even typed in properly, and it would sit and wait with a blank page for 5 seconds before loading any webpage. Cleaning up DNS with a good server usually drops that wait time.
I also once had a similar problem to Popeye's, where I couldn't go to certain websites. I can't remember specifics, I think I replaced my Qwest DNS with Verizon's or something and it cleaned that up. That was many years ago, it's a little foggy.
RoboCop001
Oct 6, 10:22 AM
Ok... do people actually make money sitting around going "I think company X is going to release product Y soon." or is there more to it than that?
Because if that's all they do....................... then I predict MURDEROUS RAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEE
Because if that's all they do....................... then I predict MURDEROUS RAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEE
paintblock
Apr 13, 01:16 PM
This is the primary design flaw with the iPad. This tablet can't be the normal person's computer unless every normal person has a tech friend/relative to keep the tablet working/updated. So while Woz is correct that the tablet will be the normal person's computer, Apple's iPad is not yet that tablet.
I'd say that's also the primary design flaw of the PC, although it wasn't very hard to overcome. Every normal person DOES tend to have a tech friend/relative just to keep their PC working/updated. I'm that tech friend/relative in most of my social circles, and if you're posting here, you're sure to be one too.
I'd say that's also the primary design flaw of the PC, although it wasn't very hard to overcome. Every normal person DOES tend to have a tech friend/relative just to keep their PC working/updated. I'm that tech friend/relative in most of my social circles, and if you're posting here, you're sure to be one too.
Sharky II
Sep 25, 10:55 AM
It's very strange that they are not supported if they are so popular. Perhaps they are not very popular in other countries?
That's why aperture gets such bad press in pro photography circles man.
That's why aperture gets such bad press in pro photography circles man.
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